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If you thought match.com was awful..try this..

 

WhereWhitePeopleMeet.com Founders Say Their Dating Site Is Not Racist

 

  • By Gloria Riviera

 

  • IGNACIO TORRES

 

 

ABC News

 

WATCH WhereWhitePeopleMeet.com Founders Say Dating Site Isn’t Racist

 

 

Niche dating websites, such as ChristianMingle.com, OurTime.com and BlackPeopleMeet.com, are helping users weed out their dating pools, but there is a new site that has many questioning how far preference can go until they are considered offensive.

 

Sam and Jodie Russell are the masterminds behind the two-month-old dating website, WhereWhitePeopleMeet.com. They launched their business with a giant billboard in their hometown of Salt Lake City, Utah — a region where the population is more than 90 percent white.

 

“We are not racist at all, without question,” Sam Russell said. “Our lifestyle shows it. The things we do. The people we associate with. The way we conduct ourselves each and every day proves it.”

 

The billboard caused such offense that the city made them take it down. Sam Russell said they knew their site was controversial and they expected backlash from it. In fact, they are hoping to turn that public outrage into profit.

 

The site has been the butt of many jokes from the late night talk show hosts but it also encapsulated the controversy surrounding race and online dating. But Russell said users on their site are not required to check a white racial preference nor are they kicked off for not being white, even though the name would suggest otherwise.

 

The dating industry is a $2 billion a year industry, according to research company IBISWorld, and about 40 million American visit dating sites every year, according to Match.com. But nowadays, sites are going the extra mile, allowing users to filter date options according to religion, height, body size and race.

 

But some online daters now say that when it comes to the game of online dating, being successful at finding a match may all come down to the color of your skin. The dating giant OKCupid says its latest trend numbers indicate that daters are less likely to contact black women and also more likely to pass on Asian, black and Latino men.

 

Paul Brunson, who has been a matchmaker for seven years and runs his own agency, said in his experience, “I can tell you without a doubt that race is the number one characteristic that people are looking for or should I say that there are weeding out.”

 

Russell said the idea came to him while watching ads for niche sites such as BlackPeopleMeet.com.

 

“I turned to Jodie and said ‘why don’t we do one for WhereWhitePeopleMeet.com,'” he said. “We kind of laughed for a bit and said, ‘oh my gosh, they would crucify us’ and I said, ‘no really, why not?'”

 

While people might assume they are trying to be hurtful, Jodie Russell said that’s not the case at all.

 

“We were just capitalizing on that market — that multi-million dollar market,” she said.

 

“I dated a black girl for quite a while,” Sam added. “We actually lived together for a few months — this is when I was younger. I don’t know if we were very serious but that relationship lasted about a year. Jodie and I have a lot of great black friends, so I think it surprises people a little bit.”

 

In fact, they argued that their site promotes conversation about racial equality, not hatred.

 

“We realize that you don’t have to get offended every time you hear the word white or the word black,” Sam said.

 

Recent data shows that 54 percent of millennials are dating outside of their race and 88 percent say they are open to it.

 

Yet critics worry that the dating site WhereWhitePeopleMeet.com has created a forum for racial prejudice. Sam said when someone used a photo of Adolf Hitler as their profile photo and they took it down off the site immediately.

 

“We are very cautious on the site, too. We moderate and don’t allow any racist comments. Take pictures off. Any racist phrases,” Jodie said.

 

The Russells’ son, Holden, a high school senior, is responsible for monitoring their website.

 

Who Is Gary Kreman?

 

 

By Tony West For The LA Times Edt.

 

 

California just put more money than god in a special “Cleantech Cash” pot created by taxpayer funds in a special Proposition. The taxpayers were just told: “it will create jobs”. What the politicians may have meant was: “It will create jobs for our personal bankers at Goldman Sachs”.

 

 

A fellow named Gary Kremen is now in charge of that cash. Who is he?

 

 

He founded Sex.com. Opponents of Mr. Kremen try to use this as a bad thing, against Mr. Kreman, but for gosh sakes: The guy has made a mint off of selling sex. If he can sell sex then he certainly can sell California politicians shaky relationship with green corruption cash. Solyndra, and a host of green corruption payola schemes, put the FBI spotlight on California. Everyone is getting ready for round two. Republicans are touting Kremen as a “trafficker” in the state that is seeking to implement the toughest anti-trafficking laws in the nation. Supporters of Kremen retort that sex.com shows every kind of sexual perversion so it clearly “does not discriminate against any kind of sexual inclination.” That sounds mighty fair.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Kremen founded Match.com. Match.com is the most sued dating site in the world. Match.com has been sued for murder, rape, the largest set of fake profiles on Earth, fraud and a host of other issues. Match.com scans every dating photo and profile, harvests user activity and sends that off to the NSA and data analysis companies. It sounds like Kremen knows how to gather consumer data so, again, what is promoted as a negative could have Kremen being a huge winner in helping California harvest private voter data for the elections. Another plus for Kremen!

 

 

In 1993, Kremen founded Electric Classifieds, Inc. Funded by private investors in November 1994, he launched the online personals service Match.com in April 1995.[3] After troubles with venture capitalists over his insistence that the company serve profitable alternative market segments including the LGBT market, he left Match.com in March 1996, remaining on the board of Electric Classifieds. Over Kremen’s objections, Match.com was sold to Cendant Corporation for $7 million in 1998[3] and sold by Cendant to Ticketmaster a year and a half later for $50 million.[4] The NSA deploys aspects of these services. From 1995 to 1996, Kremen founded and served as president of NetAngels.com, Inc., an Internet profiling, spying and personalization company[2] that suggested web sites to users. He left when NetAngels merged with Boston personalization software firm Firefly Network, Inc.[3] in 1997,[5] and Firefly was sold to Microsoft in 1998 in a reported $40 million deal.[6]

 

In 1999, Kremen was listed as an equity-holding officer or director of Brightcube, Inc.[2] The same year, he sold Computer.com for $500,000.[7][8]

 

Kremen is credited as a primary inventor on a 1995-filed patent for dynamic web pages, US patent number 5,706,434,[9] which he later sold for over $1,250,000.[10] Additionally, Kremen holds two other patents in financial-related systems management: US patent number 7,698,219[11] and US patent number 7,890,436[12]

 

A 2007 New York Times article on “millionaires who don’t feel rich” reported that Kremen estimated his net worth at $10 million.[13]

 

Kremen resides in the San Francisco Bay Area. He is the founder of residential solar financing start-up Clean Power Finance, Inc., which raised $6.9 million from investors in January 2010,[14] $25 million from Kleiner Perkins, $75 million from Google [15] in September 2011,[16] and $62 million from other investors.[17][18]

 

Kleiner Perkins is now under felony-grade investigation for rigging the original “Cleantech Crash”.

 

SEE: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/cleantech-crash-60-minutes/

 

In an ironic twist. Kleiner and Google VC’s are under suspicion of rigging the Afghan War to create an exclusive mining monopoly (See Frank Giustra Investigation) for lithium metal for Tesla and Indium Metal for Solyndra. This resulted in losses of over a trillion dollars to taxpayers. How California decided that Gary Kremen was the “Go To Guy” for Cleantech Cash could be explained by Presidential and Senator campaign finance records..but maybe not. Republicans appear to have hired a number of private investigators to seek to get “the whole story on Mr. Kremen”. Google and Kleiner Perkins were the #1 Obama financiers and the #1 Obama financial beneficiaries of exclusive taxpayer handouts.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

He was also founder and chairman of Sociogramics, a financial services company that focuses on bringing credit to the underbanked yuppies, having raised seed capital from Tugboat Ventures, Harmony Venture Partners, Trinity Ventures, Greylock Partners, Claremont Creek Ventures, and QED Investors.[19]

 

Kremen is the founding investor and a board member of CrowdFlower[20] and WaterSmart Software[21] and CapGain Solutions.[22] He is an elected board member and president of the Purissima Hills Water District[23] as well as involved with local non-profit organizations.[24] He is also a co-founder of Menlo Incubator, which is an early-stage startup program that focuses heavily on mentorship.[25][26]

 

Kremen was appointed to the Proposition 39 Citizens Oversight Board by California State Controller John Chiang in January 2014.[27] On February 24, 2014, Identive Group appointed him a member of the Board of Directors.[28]

 

Kremen was elected to the Santa Clara Valley Water District of Directors in the 2014 election.[29] On January 13, 2015, the Board elected him as the 2015 Board Chair.

 

Sex.com saga

 

Kremen first registered the domain name sex.com in 1994[30] as well as jobs.com, housing.com, and autos.com. In 1996, Stephen M. Cohen contacted Network Solutions and fraudulently had the domain transferred to his name. Kremen sued Cohen for the return of the sex.com domain name. As Cohen had profited from sex.com while assigned to him, Kremen was awarded a judgment of $65 million against Cohen. Cohen fled to Mexico and moved the money offshore. Kremen obtained Cohen’s Rancho Santa Fe mansion, where Kremen relocated to after the court case resolved. In 2003, Kremen successfully litigated against Network Solutions.[31][32] On October 28, 2005, the Los Angeles Times reported Cohen had been arrested in Mexico and turned over to US authorities.[33] Kremen sold sex.com in 2006 to Boston-based Escom LLC for $15 million in cash and stock, and sold sex.net for $454,500 later that year.[34][35][36]

 

One of Kremen’s companies is called Kremen/Father. Gabriel Spitzer tell’s one of the stories about Gary Kremen’s run in with entrepreneurs:

 

 

 

Splashed: The fall of Hot Liquid Media

 

 

 

Morality tale of how a smart idea got skunked

 

 

 

By Gabriel Spitzer

 

 

 

In the spring of 2000, Justin Fortune was in Arizona, setting up his booth at a conference organized by the Outdoor Advertising Association of America and the Transit Auto Bureau.

 

Fortune was there to introduce his company, Hot Liquid Media, and the coffee-cup sleeves that HLM placed advertisements on, to the advertising community.

 

“That was kind of our coming-out party,” recalls Fortune, former president and chief executive officer of Hot Liquid Media.

 

As it turns out, Fortune’s booth was right next to the booth for Pinpoint Golf Marketing, with whom HLM had an investor in common.

 

“An employee of Pinpoint introduced himself to me and said, ‘Oh, you’re Hot Liquid Media. Phillip wanted me to see if you would be a good candidate to be rolled up into the Pinpoint Golf media family,’” recalls Fortune.

 

That’s funny, Fortune thought. This was the first time he’d heard anything about “rolling up” Hot Liquid Media into anything.

 

Phillip Father, one of the partners at venture capital firm Kremen, Father and Partners in San Francisco, hadn’t mentioned anything about it to Fortune.

 

“That was the moment I knew they were up to something,” says Fortune.

 

For Fortune, the episode in Arizona turned out to be the prelude to a yearlong drama that would culminate in the collapse of Hot Liquid Media about a month ago.

 

Stories like this, that involve lawsuits and hurt feelings and disputed facts, often have two very different sides.

 

This is Fortune’s side of that story, and it is something of a morality tale of what can happen to a young, successful business that tangles with a venture capital firm and comes out the loser.

 

Calls to Kremen, Father and Partners for its side of this story were not returned.

 

Hot Liquid Media formed in early 1999 when Fortune, then working in radio ad sales, had the idea that the coffee cups so ubiquitous in his hometown of San Francisco were an untapped advertising resource.

 

Soon, Hot Liquid Media was turning the insulated sleeves on coffee cups into little billboards. The company’s first client was Streetlight Record, a small, local chain. Next came Pennzoil, then CNET.

 

Before long, Hot Liquid Media had assembled an impressive list of clients, including Disney, Boeing, Sony, CBS Marketwatch, Columbia Tri-Star, Kosmo.com and The Washington Post.

 

“From there we just kind of exploded. Within our first year, we were billing about $2.6 million. We had offices in San Francisco, New York, Chicago, Los Angeles and Albuquerque,” Fortune says.

 

At one point early on, Fortune’s then-girlfriend (they are now married) and business-partner Sarina Wolff called a friend of hers for financial advice. That friend worked for Kremen, Father and Partners.

 

“A day or two later he called back saying that he and his partner were interested in our company and would like to invest. It wasn’t something we asked for, it was just kind of dangled in front of our faces,” says Fortune.

 

“They invested $60,000, and we gave up 30 percent of the company.”

 

Fortune and Wolff gave up one other thing that they would soon come to regret: three seats on Hot Liquid Media’s five-person board.

 

“There were three original investors, and we thought, why not? That was just a mistake we made,” says Fortune.

 

Meanwhile, Hot Liquid Media continued to grow. It improved the quality of the photos on its coffee sleeves and began placing ads on beer coasters.

 

But then came the incident in Arizona, and Fortune quickly found out what he believes were his investors’ true intentions for the company.

 

“The company was a cash cow, and the investors wanted a quick payoff. They told us to roll it up with one or more of the other companies they had investments in, or buy their shares back,” says Fortune.

 

Moreover, Kremen, Father and Partners presented Fortune with a valuation of the company at $10 million, and they wanted a third of that sum in a buy-back, Fortune says.

 

According to Fortune, that valuation was way, way too high, and came not from an outside source but from the investors’ own calculations.

 

“They gave us a one-month deadline. When that deadline came around and we didn’t give them any answers, they became upset and started taking aggressive action,” says Fortune.

 

“So they held an illegal board meeting in the attorney’s office over three days and essentially executed the buyout.”

 

After the meeting, Fortune and Wolff fired the board. Soon thereafter, Kremen, Father and Partners filed suit against Fortune and Wolff.

 

Then, says Fortune, things started to get really ugly.

 

Somehow, he says, the investors managed to lock up the company’s cash holdings, leaving it with no operating funds.

 

From there the company’s demise was swift.

 

“That made it difficult to operate. If our clients couldn’t get us the money up front, we had to turn the deal down.”

 

Finally, with lawsuits still pending and lawyers’ bills piling up, Hot Liquid Media closed its doors for good.

 

Since then, Fortune has gone back into the advertising world. The transition from CEO to desk job has not been easy, but Fortune has definitely learned a thing or two.

 

“Business partners are like personal relationships. You have to be very careful who you get into bed with. The sheets can get soiled. It can put you in a position where you’ve screwed yourself so royally if there’s a dispute, that people can turn your life upside down,” he says.

 

“An investor is always going to take you down a different path than what you intended. Whether you’re giving up five, 10 or 90 percent, that investor is never going to view the business the same way you do. A dime is a million bucks to them.”

 

 

 

-Gabriel Spitzer is a staff writer for Media Life.

 

 

 

I found this interested tidbit in a leaked law enforcement doc:

 

 

 

 

 

Kremen, Father & Partners, LLC

 

Gary Kremen

 

Philip Father

 

North America USA California San Francisco

 

Address: 2544 Third Street, San Francisco, CA 94107, USA

 

Phone: +1 415 920 0944

 

Fax: +1 415 920 0945

 

Kremen, Father & Partners, LLC gkremen@aol.com

 

KREMEN FATHER & PARTNERS in San francisco is a company that specializes in “Investment Advice”. Our records show it was established in California.

 

Estimated Yearly Revenue: $1,245,000 in 2002 SIC Code: 6282

 

Founders/Owners: Match.com, Sex.com

 

Consultants to: Kleiner Perkins, lithium ion battery sources, political campaigns

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  • United States Patent number 7,698,219 Issued April 13, 2010: Methods, systems and agreements for increasing the likelihood of repayments under a financing agreement for renewable energy equipment.

 

 

 

  • [1] Greentech Media, Retrieved on 2009-01-05

 

  • [2] Google invests $75M into Clean Power Finance solar fund

 

  • [3] Google Invests $75 Million in Home Solar Venture

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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